TLDR:
Unless you plan to annihilate all forms of uniqueness there will always be need for currency of some sort to allocate access to that which cannot (or should not) be reproduced. (Such as an individual’s time or use of a specific radio frequency range.)
Material post scarcity is of course possible and coming. That’s easy really:
We can acquire a high degree of ubiquitous material wealth if we do three things:
1. Reform IPL to make all code free as in speech and beer. Privacy could still easily be respected. In fact copyright enforcement and privacy of correspondence are mutually exclusive. (To program the robots.)
2. Deploy nuclear reactors quickly to provide the bottom of an anthropocentric materials economy food chain. (To power the robots.)
3. Develop an open source humanoid robot, recharged by the reactors, and instructed by ever evolving shared open code above, to automate any labor task we need done yet are unwilling to do personally. (To have the robots.)
But you’ll still need both authority and currency to manage things like frequency allocation and to evade tragedy of the commons situations at the macroscopic emergent level.
Best way to allocate the funding is via a steeply progressive tax and a UBI.
Main post:
TVP to me is just one of thousands of positive liberty (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liberty-positive-negative/) global proposals that require too much (however gentle) forced (via “education”) homogenization and indoctrination.
I stipulate that TVP is materially feasible and logically consistent, but then again an ant hill is materially feasible, and most religions are, internally at least, logically consistent. A good global plan requires more than that. We cannot simply ask if we can do something, we must ask if we should.
Simply improving on the situation now is insufficient if the method annihilates better possible futures. Indeed some have formally defined intelligence is the evasion of future constraints.
The opportunity cost must always be considered. An improvement alone is insufficient justification for any course of action. (Much like how a UBI is incomplete without a wealth cap.)
TVP is ethically sub-optimal, if not actively wrong. Global order through unity of mind, delivered by “education” is one of the more insidious (precisely because it could work) facets of any proposed global social system.
The Tyranny Of Compulsory Schooling
And without question TVP would require, an admittedly benevolent, compulsory schooling system. That alone is a deal breaker for me. Any system that requires it is in my view an ethical and ultimately biological threat. Diversity is strength for a reason. You can’t just looks at snapshots in time you have to look at the whole of it.
I imagine myself being transported to the TVP future. I don’t like what I see. It would have to exile me, ignore me, or force me. It really has no other options. The founder said in a video that it has to be global. Think about what that means. EVERYONE has to agree or it won’t work. So what do you do with the people that don’t agree?
You educate them out of existence or you quarantine them (psycho-socially or physically) until they die and are replaced by “properly” educated citizens.
But really that’s just ideological icing on the cake, the real death stroke for TVP is the fact that humanity is not going to fundamentally be the same species in 50 or so years. Altering that baseline would require a complete reevaluation/redesign of all the TVP materials.
It will begin as cures for genetic disorders, then it will become a new type of vaccine, then it will become performance enhancements, and finally it becomes recreational and biohacker territory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biohacking
I own my own genetic code. I have the right to edit that code. I just currently lack the tools and map.
http://www.hedweb.com/confile.htm
I’m a larvae waiting for the tools and opportunity to pupate. And I’m not even close to alone.
I expect the human baseline to explosively branch off. (The furries alone when given the option of actually becoming animal hybrids of every possible combination will do so with gusto.) And that’s relatively bland compared to the kind of experimental chimeras I expect to see.
In 100 years you won’t even be able to find a single objective biological classification that will encompass all humans who have ever lived. There will be or have been extreme examples of neo-human in every known niche of macroscopic life.
There will be aquatic anaerobic humans living around deep sea vents. (http://www.feedbooks.com/book/974/starfish) There will be humans that have forgone gender and adapted themselves to breed parthenogenetically. (As per the whiptail lizard.) There will be humans that have become reptilian, insectile, fungal, and those are just the experimental or obsessed individuals.
There will be actual vampires (within the realm of physical possibility), actual werewolves, actual vulcans and elves and hobbits and trolls and dragons, because people will modify themselves to suit. Do you really see that level of diversity all living in neat little domes, sitting in neat little rows learning how to be “technicians?” Or would you just outlaw genetic engineering?
TVP can’t cope with nor tolerate that level of diversity because, Fresco is completely overlooking the feedback impact loop of transhumanism. Even his geometry fails in that regard. (What about the humans that want to be 10ft tall or the ones that want to be 2ft tall?)
Very few people have any real idea what the future will look like.
Don’t misunderstand, I sure as hell see where TVP is coming from. But the problem is that TVP is a package deal. I can’t back it for the same reasons I can’t just say I’m a democrat and be done with it.
Freeing people from slavery is a fine goal, and I certainly believe that material scarcity can and will be annihilated. Also, currency needs deep reform as well, just not abolition.
99% of TVP adherents have their heart in the right place, and really to me that’s all that matters so long as they remain, like you, open minded and critically aware. To the degree that TVP actually promotes the scientific method and not a self serving corruption of it, it is an excellent idea(s).
Currency isn’t the problem:
But TVP’s attacking the wrong thing primarily. You don’t need to annihilate currency to annihilate slavery.
Bait and Switch
One Possible Solution
Explore bitcoin, and how it is different from fiat money. Currency is a tool, a technology. And like any tool or technology it is not intrinsically good (useful) or evil (harmful). Anyone working to annihilate money is wasting their time.
Currency isn’t about reward and punishment. That’s merely one way to deploy currency.
Currency is about externalizing priorities. Making objective show of your subjective intent. (“Putting your money where your mouth is.” or “Voting with your wallet.”) Currency represents a share of the planet. How we allocate those shares is a political, ethical, and economic question.
In effect he’s looking at a pizza and in order to share it fairly advocates the abolition of slices. It’s nonsensical. Even if you eliminate slices you still have to divide up the pizza. Even if you refuse to say that’s what you are doing, there’s no way to escape it.
Currency in the future will be about prioritizing your desires. The idea is to give everyone enough to be healthy and comfortable and informed. (Not via education but just by eliminating the slavery of compulsory schooling or employment.) Human curiosity will do the rest.
I’m a glutton. I love me some good (and junk) food, it’s just in my nature. Thus I’d spend more of my share on different foods, and traveling to experience those foods. (I want to fly to Vietnam and have a couple bowls of Pho for example.)
Other people aren’t going to care as much as I do. Other people might want a larger share of the planet than I have for reasons of their own, and I might be willing to give up some of my portion of X for some of their portion of Y. Allowing them to engage in enterprise to convince the rest of us to fund them so they can accomplish that goal has to be possible or else humanity loses a critical avenue of adaptation and diversity.
Maybe they want to pool resources for some objective. Like a space program for example. Or some kind of kickstarter project.
Currency is about equitably dividing up whatever there is to divide up and there will always be stuff to divide up, thus there will always be a need for currency of some sort. Even if it’s not declared. Something will function as currency even if it’s just hours of your day. You’ll spend them on X to get Y and how badly you want X will determine how many you spend.
Side topic about credibility:
You likely don’t think it’s possible for me to be “smarter” than him 🙂
http://talentdevelop.com/articles/WIIA.html
They want you to think that way.They want you to believe that you don’t have the right to speak against him unless you can play the education/skill/experience card.
But given his age and life focus, that’s hardly fair for a consensus friendly movement. In actuality it’s just a way to arbitrarily exclude potential opposition.
That’s why the first thing you see in “Future by Design” is Larry King telling the world what a super genius this guy is because of all his technical skill.
Specific Responses:
Since the kitchen sink approach has failed so many others, let me focus on a couple things the guy said in the 8 minute video above. Not the FAQ, not what other people say he meant, let’s focus on the leader and his words.
How is that fair? Because if you disregard the leader then you might as well name your own movement.The leader while he is alive defines the movement, and after he dies whoever can best manage the perception of being true to that vision controls the movement. (That’s why north Korea is saturated with past leader mythology and why American politics is so full of speculation and debate over what the founders meant or thought or said.)
That’s why I focus on policy fragments/elements (like the UBI) not policy collectives (like nations, parties, or ideologies).
“It has to be global.”
This has two problems.
Firstly it’s like saying “I have a great way to live but it’ll only work if you live by yourself.”
Secondly, it has a very clear “my way or the highway” implication to it. No matter how gentle and palatable you make that highway and the journey to it.
Thirdly it betrays a deep misunderstanding of war and its causes. War isn’t about resources ultimately, war is about perception. As an example explore this little area of the planet.
TVP’s solution is the same as Cosmos in essence. He wants to destroy money because he fears what Cosmo calls _”its most powerful ability.”_ Marx and Lennon did as well but they realized more accurately what money is, what it facilitates, and why destroying it wasn’t possible, or necessary.
But they, and he, were wrong for the same reason the drug war is futile and why gun law is unenforceable. Diverse desires cannot be moderated effectively by authority. Authority itself is perception management. So is money in a sense. Control of perception can control the flow of money and the value of money, that much is obvious, but money, value itself, are just perceptions.
TVP ultimately proposes and is/would be defined by and as a command economy. the problem is that no central command (silicon or carbon) can compete with distributed parallel processing and barring totalitarian technological despotism, the collective computing power and sophistication of the group will always outstrip the computing power of any center.
“Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold…” ~Yeats
“…we announce on TV what is available and what is not available at the time…”
He intends to replace money entirely with “technically competent” and “scientific” command.
That will not work. Even if you make the entire population technicians, which he clearly expects to occur as demonstrated by his back to school rhetoric.
However, freeing the population from the slavery of work is a noble goal.
“If you have a million sincere people that have no technical competence I can assure you nothing can be accomplished.”
Really, this tells me all I need to know. He doesn’t understand humanity at all. He needs to watch this show: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/james-burke-connections/
He also need to really think about the following quote:
“Imagination is more important than knowledge.” ~Albert Einstein
Knowledge can be systematically acquired. Indeed it’s something machines can do.
https://www.sciencemag.org/content/324/5923/85.abstract
Those 1000 imaginations are far more valuable than 10,000 highly skilled but dull technicians. (Or programs.) This isn’t a matter of opinion or doe eyed sentimental claptrap, it’s one of those ironic paradoxical but universal truths. We’ve scientifically confirmed that science isn’t all that important.
That’s why facts and reason don’t convince people. That’s why showmen are always in charge, not scientists. That’s why charisma is more powerful than reason.
It’s also why appearing irrational conveys advantage.
Click to access refs4375.pdf
(https://www.google.com/search?q=game+theory+appearing+irrational)
He fundamentally fails to parse the importance of the subjective. He makes the same mistake Nash did, he assumed a mercenary/rational base of human action. (By his own description his vision of what defined a rational player in part depended on his own mental illness.)