TLDR: Inside the Red Pill MRA community, asking the ultra basic first order of business question “is this even real” will get you banned and your comments deleted.
Context: I have made exactly two comments on the entire domain of avoiceformen.com. The first got me scolded and the second got me banned. I can fit both in a single screenshot.
The deleted comment, which got me banned and publicly mocked by two of the sites mods reads:
Did I just get scolded by a mod for daring to express perfectly valid skepticism?
Bravo for undermining the credibility of the entire domain…
Exactly no one moved by this is taking it as a “subjective autobiographical opinion piece” but you, and only after citation was requested.
Expressly because of your response I’m even more doubtful of the story’s veracity with your snarky rush to defend it.
Allow me to be equally snarky: It’s only “autobiographical” if the person exists. If they don’t, then the word you’re looking for is “fiction.”
Now, the fact that I’m even reading this domain should objectively prove I have sympathy for the MRA community. And I totally do. I’ve written about it all over in many contexts. What you can’t find is hidden it because MRAs are hated worse than child rapists, when they aren’t simply asserted to be equivalent and I simply don’t have the courage to publish ALL of my opinions. Sue me.
However, it is pretty clear from the above exchange that while the MRA cause absolutely has merit its advocates are just as logically bankrupt and cowardly as their counterparts on the other side.
The post I’m commenting on in the image above is a very well written piece supposedly authored by a trans (female to male) man and essentially asserts that much of the MRA movement has a point which can not be seen until one is male. That may very well be true and I personally agree. (Though I feel that the fight for men’s rights is low priority at the moment, not because it’s fiction based or because it’s unimportant, but because there are larger more pressing issues and the opportunity cost is too high right now and that many of the issues are symptoms of deeper shared issues.)
However, I find it far more likely that the piece was written by a male with no exceptional experience beyond the realization that simply being a man invalidates his comments in the eyes of society. It’s a sad fact that facts don’t matter. What matters (somewhat) is identity. And I feel it’s likely he forged that for attention.
Essentially in the arena of rhetoric I assume people are lying pretty much by default. I feel this is healthy skepticism. And as such, I asked for some citation on this “Steven” so I could be assured that I wasn’t reading invented propaganda.
The response to my question as pictured above is astonishing.
You have been banned either because you have completely ignored the purpose of this site or for a violation of Comment Policy (derailing). [Ref: 10495]
Additional remarks:
I see what you did here. Manipulative shit hole.
So in response to the mod that banned me: “The purpose of this site” is apparently detached from any evidence, to the point that asking such a basic question as “is this even real” will get you banned and your comments deleted. Derailing? This post is 4 YEARS old. How is asking the simple question above not blatantly on topic? I guess if the topic is blind acceptance and cheerleading for what is starting to really look like a flattering lie, then yeah asking if it’s fiction is pretty distracting.
Sidenote: Manipulative? Is this a conspiracy theory now? I wonder exactly what I am being accused of.
So yeah, there you have it. Don’t EVER ask for even the most basic evidence from a red pill. It’ll only get you banned.